on the censorship of nsfw projects on itchio by payment processors


update 7/25: sex advice succubus has been delisted from search now too.

ill leave this post up as is, but you can find better compiled resources here: https://yellat.money/

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hello! if you found this game by searching the nsfw tag here on itchio, you may have noticed those search results have thinned out considerably. in case you weren't aware, itchio was forced to deindex all adult content from its search due to pressure from payment processors. some projects were even completely removed without warning! more info here: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content

i wanted to write a post here because currently when you search for nsfw games, sex advice succubus is the top result. it seems like the reason it didn't get delisted is because it doesn't use the erotic tag (since the game currently has no erotic content). traffic to this page has hugely spiked because of this, so i wanted to take the opportunity to try and help point people in a positive direction!

if you agree that it's unfair for payment processors to be the ones to decide what art is allowed to be bought and sold internationally, there is an ACLU petition you can sign to help combat the issue.

here is a collection of phone numbers i saw posted on bluesky:

  • Mastercard (US): 1-800-627-8372
  • Mastercard (Int.): +1-636-722-7111 
  • Visa (US + Can): 1 800 847 2911 
  • Visa (AUS): 1 800 125 440 
  • PayPal: +44-0203-901-7000

i’ve also heard that visa is telling people to email them at askvisa@visa.com regarding the issue. here is the email for mastercard too: customer_support@mastercard.com

here's a site with a huge collection of information plus scripts to help you make phone calls if you're so inclined: https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/

i’ll update this post with more resources as i come across them.

thank you for reading, i hope to be able to continue to update sex advice succubus here on itchio!

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Since it seems the situation has gotten better and Itch has put out a statement saying so do you think maybe this could be re-listed publicly again? 

oh i haven't seen the statement, could you link it to me?

Sure, here it is.

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Congrats on using your accidental spike of fame for the Cause. I had actually played this a few months ago, and wanted to reinstall it.

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I really appreciate you sharing this information, it is extremely necessary due to all the censorship that has been going on lately. 

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Thank you for spreading the information. Although the last link doesn't work

If sonoen is interested, who has started  this ba. Wave.

Search for collective shrout.

Please be fair and no harassment to the the people there I wrote them my opinion and that it is hardly to criticism that the letter of them kills many protects that don't make peoplemsand that they now responsible for this terrible ban wave on nearly every gaming platform.

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While Itch had no choice at this time, it's still deeply disappointing that they had no action plan to try and defend themselves and their users from this sort of thing.

It's not like this is the first time that payment processors have pulled this exact sort of bullshit, Itch had to have known that this sort of thing was at risk.

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What COULD they do? It's the same as a normal citizen trying to fight alone for his family against the president of his own country, it's not a fight from the start.

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I'm so disappointed and pissed that even itch io caved into the pressure of puritans asking for censorship. I really hope you can find an alternative platform, or some solution, during this whole disaster of a situation. Censorship is never justified.

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to be fair, if they had resisted the entire site would be without payment processing and no artists on the platform could be paid. i think steam probably could have made a stand, but not a site as small as itchio.

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if you put it that way, it makes sense. it's still very discouraging tho

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thank you for spreading the message, it really sucks that a small group of random people from Australia can decide whether or not we're allowed to search for adult games

what really sucks is that free games that aren't even involved with payments are getting punished, all of my adult games have been delisted

I hope this gets resolved soon, it's a huge bummer and is a bad sign for the future of indie games if people can get away with this kinda stuff

just wondering but, will there be a possible update to please touch tiffany?

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It does stink aplove i seen a few of my favorite nsfw games hadnt updated in over a year IDK if its the issue with the bs itch.io had to do or not.. miss playing my inactive nsfw games, i ment to ask too since on wife's bedroom I cant leave a comment on it.. could you possibly make a apk file for android i can kinda play it on my google pixel 7a but its only say 3 hearts to fill once all 3 are done i cant change lovers.. playing in the browser an i kinda wanna try the mods too in a way..but mostly the regular part of it.. idk if you can make an android file or not but if you can that be much appreciated so i can continue playing it instead of closing the game down an refreshing my browser to restart next lover. 

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It’s so ridiculous. Thank you for spreading awareness, I hope we can get some change 💪💪💪

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What the hell is wrong with this world. 

1 people fought 30years to get more freedom and that NSFW content is work too

And now we see how it is slowly going in the complete opposite direction.

This stupid cicle isn't even making his first rotation, but I can't understand while human kind is always around the same fucking circles. 

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i’ve also heard that visa is telling people to email them

Yes, I'm sure Visa would love for people to email them - that's trivial to bulk automate and does not tie up a system with limited capacity. Call them. And record the call so you have a record of how it went.

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I mean, enough emails and their automated system will curl up into a ball and cry, but yes, call them.

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Yes, attack them on all fronts. With enough mails, any system will collapse.

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There's something fishy about the whole Collective Shout thing. Normally big companies like Mastercard and Visa completely ignore the pleas of "activist" groups, no matter how much they cry or beg. They'd even keep covid alive on purpose if more death meant more body bag sales. They only take minimal action when neccessary to selfishly protect their own fat pockets. So the fact that these big-ass corpos are bending over backwards for this group (who is evil btw "activists" or not), seems to imply they have someone even more powerful as a donor... someone like Elon Musk or perhaps even the Russian Oligarchs. It also feels very much like Hitler's "witch hunt" against "degenerate art".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

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Thank you for being helpful. I hope we can do more to improve the situation. I hate how things have gotten to this point.

Please be safe.

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Thank you for spreading the word about this! Do you have a backup plan to host this or any of your other games in the advent that itchio goes belly-up?

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not currently. i dont know any other platform that allows nsfw games and comics right now...

 itchio felt like the last one.

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Last I checked, Booth (BoothPM? It's partnered or owned by Pixiv?) allows NSFW comics and games. I feel like your VNs and Comics that have been translated to Japanese would do really well over there! Other than that, the options are pretty slim aside from just making your own personal site and host it on somewhere like NeoCities or something.

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I saw this post saying that JAST was open for contact in this regard - the initial post mentioned BL and otome games, but I included a reblog where the same person mentioned those were not the only categories they were open to receiving.

https://www.tumblr.com/declawedwildcat/790005904774987776

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Also for VISA in the UK 

0800 89 1725

And complaints@vpl.visa.ccomplaints@vpl.visa.com

I think it may be an idea to file a formal complaint

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When I saw this happen to steam I thought it’s alright, I still have itch. I really am hoping this’ll not last, not just cuz of adult content but the dystopian implications

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am i still able to view games in my collections after they've been delisted?

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if the game was only delisted and not removed, you can still access it. as far as i understand, removed games are no longer downloadable.

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Removed games are currently still downloadable through jam submission pages (at the top right corner of game pages), through your library if the game is already bound to your account, and through the itch desktop app.

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We need to spread this around to let people speak out against this. 

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Yaya!

Good job NAMI! Using the traffic for good abababababa

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